Monday, May 11, 2009

Discussion Of The Week - Week 2

Got a bunch of replies on last week's discussion question, so I guess this will in fact become a recurring feature on here. This week's question pertains to what most refer to as "guilty pleasures", something us horror fans all have no shortage of!

You know it sucks, but you love it just the same. In fact, you probably love it even more because it sucks! What is your favorite guilty pleasure horror movie?

I personally don't feel any guilt about any of my pleasures, but the one bad horror movie that comes immediately to mind (perhaps thanks to the fact that I just watched it, though it's about as perfect a choice as I can think of regardless) and holds a special place in my heart is ......

(I know at least one fellow blogger will appreciate me not using the watered down DVD cover image! The skull ice cream is pretty cool, but it doesn't beat bloody eyeball ice cream or that Clint Howard facial expression!)

Do I really need to explain myself any further than to just show this picture?

(To make that all the more badass, that's the head of American Werewolf star David Naughton!!)

No? Well I will!

The reason I know this is the perfect choice is because it pained me above to call it a bad horror movie! I have been fascinated with horror, ice cream men, and Clint Howard for many many years so naturally the combination of the three in one hour and half event is pretty much the closest I can ever get to complete and utter nirvana. When it comes to the sub genre of ice cream horror, a sub genre that I deeply love, Ice Cream Man (without the "the") is at the top of the list and pretty much wrote the book on said sub genre. I ask you ; what is not to love about Clint Howard as a killer ice cream man who incorporates his victims into his confectionery? I am quite certain that this is the role the younger and more deformed Howard spawn was quite literally born to play and it's a mystery to me why Clint's titular ice cream man does not show up alongside Freddy, Jason, and Michael Myers on top horror movie villains lists around the web. Simply put, Ice Cream Man ranks among Sperm Bitches, Hungry Holes, and Edward Penishands 3 as one of director Paul Norman's finest works. They just don't make em like they used to!

Just a little bit of trivia before I turn the tables over to you guys .....

One of the writers of ICM, David Dobkin, went on to direct recent comedy hits Wedding Crashers and Fred Claus! Who knew!

Now it's your turn! What's your favorite horror movie guilty pleasure?! Leave a comment with your answer and, if you're feeling up to it, why you chose the movie you chose!


Bjornabo said...

The movie of my choice is: Boo.

I hated the movie the first time I saw it because of the bad CGI effects and the lousy acting. And I decided that I would never see it again.

But now I have seen it 3 or 4 times and I like it more and more each time I see it.

The storyline is great, and the locations are really creepy and the sound effects magnificent.

Wings said...

Hmmm... I could say one of the Halloween movies (part 5), but it is well known, and does have some merits.

And stuff I like, Motel Hell or Spider Baby, aren't really guilty pleasures, having achieved cult status.

But what is the cheesiest, guiltiest I do like? I am gonna go with the franchise-killer Jaws: The Revenge.

Remember, this film predates all the "killer animal hunts down people" movies that are a staple of SciFi Channel. This one was (and is) in a league of it's own. (Not that many films want to be part of that league. Then again, maybe they do...)

Recently, I was flicking through the cable guide and there were some decent movies airing, stuff that I SHOULD have watched, stuff with "merit". But then I saw Jaws: The Revenge and my choice was made for me.

I can't explain it. It's like a train wreck, I don't want to watch but I am intrigued enough to keep doing so.

J. Astro said...

The Jared Padalecki/Elisha Cuthbert-starring "HOUSE OF WAX" remake. Sure, it also features Paris Hilton, and that bitch is a cancer on modern society. And sure, it has nothing to do, really, with the classic Vincent Price film it borrows its title from. And most of the "cool" kids on the genre cinescape would disavow me for championing a 'blatant, soulless Hollywood ripoff' (I've never met anyone who liked this movie except for me, btw).


In my own view, it's cool to be uncool, so I don't need to worry about losing my horror "street cred" over this one.

And also, I think the movie has passable acting, but more importantly, *awesomely brutal kills* and that -really- nifty melting-house setpiece at the end. I was actually kinda wowed by the effects in this one.

So, yeah. "HOUSE OF WAX" 2005.

Sauceman said...

God there are so many....It may not be horror PERSAY however, i think we are all aware that the Astronauts Wife is Johnny Depp's finest work!!

Zacery Nova said...

God, what do you do when the whole point of your existence is to watch films everyone else hates?

I suppose a film I would probably not tell other fans I like would be 'Gutterballs'. I could go on and on about the Final Destination series but I don't think I'd tell someone I met that I liked Gutterballs.

- Zac

Johnny said...

J.Astro - Meet someone else who liked House of Wax! I've been shit on by just about everyone for liking this movie, but I don't care. It's a kickass horror flick and in fact i'd go so far as to say it's one of the better remakes out there. Choke on that! I think horror fans just think they have to hate it because Paris Hilton is in it. But what logic is there in that? She was in it just so we could all watch Paris Hilton get a pole through her head! Everyone should be praising and thanking this movie for that alone!

Wings said...

Add me to the list of fans of the new "House of Wax". There are LOTS of good, creepy scenes in that flick. How about when Padelecki's character is entombed in the wax, yet he is alive and his eyes can still move! zoinks!

Johnny said...

Just one of the many awesome scenes in a movie filled with awesome scenes!

Jason Takes Portland said...

As for recent movies I would have to go with "Freddy Vs. Jason". I really liked this movie, it has some great nudity and gore, but I loved the way it was really 3 movies mixed into one. It starts as a F13 movie then switches to a Nightmare movie which puts them on a collision course for the epic showdown. The movie gets a lot of crap but it hits all the right spots for me.

As an old school flick I love "Sleepaway Camp". As a long time camper and camp counselor I thought this was a great mixture of camp drama and slasher. I would almost go as far to say that I like this movie better than the first Friday the 13th. The ending is a great twist and the fact that the camera dwells on it for so long makes it even campier.

PS: I have to throw Feddy's Dead in the mix as well. The effects are fun and there are so many good cameos: Johnny Depp, Yaphet Koto, Alice Cooper, Rosanne. And the credit montage from all the other movies really ties things up nicely.

Johnny said...

Freddy vs Jason fuckin rocks! Can't understand how anyone could bash that movie in any way. It's Freddy Krueger vs Jason Voorhees. What's to complain about!

Zacery Nova said...

I love the House of Wax remake too! But then again, I'm predisposed to.

- Zac

Carl (ILHM) said...

How do I pick only one.. Jason X immediately comes to mind, since I have seen that one a sickeningly 12 times or more..

AVP:R, 2001 Maniacs, Howling 4 all come to mind..

If I had to go with a single title, I would have to go with Black Xmas, which is by all means a terrible, terrible film, but Ill be fucking damned if it isnt the most entertaining movie I have seen in years! I love the Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairies set to all of the killing and suspense, love the ridiculous eye gouging and gore, and I think Billy's character and nuances are so incredibly hilarious I cant help but love the flick.

Johnny said...

Definetly agree with ya on Jason X. Can't deny that it's a fun flick. Really dont have much love in my heart for Black X-mas though!

The Warfreak said...

I do really like Ice Cream Man, but I think that it is maybe a bit too tongue-in-cheek to make a "guilty pleasures" list, just my own personal opinion.

Mine is probably The Last Slumber Party. Easily one of the worst movies I have seen in my life, yet I have seen it 5 or 6 times now. I don't know why I keep revisiting it...but I'm drawn to it like a moth to a pile of flaming shit.

Quanthor said...

'Dr. Giggles'- 90's slasher that's full of funny kills and one liners

The Ghoulies movies - pure cheese is the best way to sum up these.

'Halloween III'(although I will contend that this movie isn't bad at all and it's actually quite good but for some reason people crap on it)

ICM needed more gore to whet my appetite but I loved Clint Howard in it.

The ending of House of Wax was great, but I still don't understand why they went super cliche and strayed away from the original's story and gave us another "hillbillies in the woods" themed film that has been done far too many times.

Johnny said...

I love Halloween 3. The only reason people crap on it is because Michael Myers isn't in it, plain and simple. If it were just titled "Season of the Witch", it'd probably be seen as an awesome horror movie to this day. It's just a shame that nobody can seem to get over the lack of Mikey.

J. Astro said...

Jesus Christ - great discussion, and I gotta say that I like *every single movie mentioned* here! There's not a loser in the bunch!

Johnny - you've made me wanna rediscover "ICE CREAM MAN" all over again.

Zac - "GUTTERBALLS" - true dat, man. It's such an ugly and mean-spirited and amateurish affair, but at the end of the day? Yeah, it serves up plenty of gushy blood and of course, *DEATH BY 69*

Johnny said...

Death by 69, you say!? I guess I need to see Gutterballs!

And for the record, nothing would make me happier than you rediscovering Ice Cream Man on my behalf!! Get to it! =)

J. Astro said...

Yeah, Johnny, if you need more encouragement, I reviewed "GUTTERBALLS" over here:

(although now I'm a shameless self-promoter of my own blog, and I'm totally stealing Zac's contribution - - sorry, Zac :( )

Johnny said...

Well it's a good thing I fully support shameless self promotion of any kind on my blog! I'm a follower of The Cheap Bin and i'll definetly be checking out Gutterballs soon!

Cins said...

I LOVE Clint Howard so I will have to check it out!
I have WAY too many Guilty Pleasure movies...

1-The Hazing. Stac showed it to me a couple years ago. Cheep effects and bitchy scream queens in skin tight latex costumes. AWESOME!!

2-Night of the Demons. It was one of the first horror films I ever saw. I haven't seen it in AGES. I really should add it to the Netfix cue.
3-The Granny. Watched it years and years ago on late night cable. I think I love this film JUST because a woman gets eaten by her own fur coat.
4-Warlock. Its so silly. But I love Julian Sands and the film is actually a bit romantic...well to me it is.
5-Wishmaster...I don't even know WHY I like this movie but I feel the need to watch it if its ever on cable. It REALLY wants to be a Clive Barker movie which I find kinda charming.

And I don't know if this counts as a guilty pleasure but I really REALLY love Freddy Vs Jason.

Zacery Nova said...

@ Carl: Marry me? Black Xmas was AWESOME, I think we must be two out of ten people who love that movie.

@ J Astro: Totally fine, Gutterballs is awesome -- and you get extra points for not putting an extra 'k' or 'h' in my name.

@ Johnny: Death-by-69 is definitely NOT the best death in the film, but I warn you there is an 11-minute gratuitous rape scene - I just fast-forwarded through it.

Regarding shameless self-promotion, I included a (positive) review of Black X-Mas (the remake) in my first newsletter which is available for $2 or a swap (for ANYTHING - zines especially). Just email me at ''.

Alright, plug over :D

- Zac

PS: I've been going through your old blog posts, I LOVE IT!

Johnny said...

Glad you enjoy it and thanks so much to all those who have discussed this topic with me! I really appreciate it! Keep 'em comin!

Gwen said...

Why haven't I answered this one yet?! Mine is Disturbing Behavior starring James Marsden and Nick Stahl. It's awful! The acting is horrible. Stahl gives a good performance but the rest is cringe-worthy. I remember reading an interview with Stahl where he said the director brought Katie Holmes to a bad neighbourhood so she could observe how to play a bad girl. Can you believe it? The special effects at the end are super fake. And I'm pretty sure they cut out a lot of stuff. The dead brother subplot goes nowhere.

Despite all that or maybe because of it, I love the movie.

Johnny said...

Haven't seen Disturbing Behavior but thanks for the's never too late!

Anonymous said...

well since many people hated freddy vs jason i will say that it is possibly the first horror film i ever voluntarily watched. even though it isnt scary. and i love it.

also people hated the halloween remake, but i also love that one. the backstory is pretty cool.

maybe it is just me but i think that society doesnt like horror films, and for many people horror films themselves are guilty pleasures, so really with fellow horror fans i maybe dont have any guilty pleasures as far as horror films go.
i mean it is a positive thing in horror films when someone dies, and really when someone dies it is negative, so in a way negative and positive elements in horror films sometimes are switched.

i dont even know what i am saying, sorry.

Johnny said...

oddly enough I think I get what you're trying to say! ;)

Sweet One said...

I used to watch the movie Lepracaun over and over on VHS. And I knew very well that it sucked. I dunno. Maybe I liked the group of heroes, who were thrown togather, and finally outwited and defeated the monster--even though it's cheesy beyond beleif.

Two movies I love but everyone else hates are The Sound of Thunder and The Black Caulron (neither horror). But they aren't really guilty pleasures, since I would defend both of them in spite of what critics and other viewers say.

One 'guilty pleasure" I have is that I don't like Halloween III. But this has NOTHING to do with the fact it isn't a Myers movie. It has to do with the fact that the villain wins in the end. I actually think making a Halloween series with a different Hallween related theme each time (as was their intent) sounds cool. But Halloween 3 actually almost ruined Halloween for me one year, when I read the Dennis Etchsin novel.

Guess said...

I'd say "repo the genetic opera" because it isn't really that gory or scary I just find the film entertaining.