Tuesday, July 28, 2009

Discussion of the Week - How Do You Like Your Freddy?

At Comic Con this past weekend a few things were revealed about the upcoming Nightmare on Elm Street remake. The first image of Jackie Earle Haley as Freddy was shown, the poster art was unveiled, and it was announced by director Samuel Bayer that this vision of Freddy will be a much darker and less comical one than we've seen in most of the later installments in the franchise. Fine by me. But what's not fine by me is numerous people out there on the web bashing the more comedic side of Krueger that I know and love. A lot of people are thrilled that the remake is gonna bring a more serious Freddy back to the table because they apparently didn't dig the wise crackin jokester he went on to become, which is quite surprising for me to hear. So this week, i'd like to know your opinions on this very topic.

Do you prefer the more serious Freddy Krueger from the original Nightmare on Elm Street or the one liner spouting slice ya then make fun of ya Freddy Krueger from the later Elm Street installments?

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I guess I already gave my thoughts on the matter with my little intro there. To me, there is nothing better than the Freddy who cracks jokes, appears in rap videos, and has yo yo's and talking dolls made in his likeness. Such things may make him less scary but they're the things that seperated him from all the other horror villains out there and they're the things that always drew me to him as a kid and still draw me to him to this day. Above all else, Freddy is just plain entertaining and that's a large part of his appeal for me. The Freddy that spouts one liners before or after dissecting his victims is the one I know and love and that's where Englund always shined the brightest in the role. As far as i'm concerned, it was always the direction the character was headed. It reminds me of the Evil Dead trilogy and how some folks bash the two sequels because they were more comedy based and thus, were no longer scary. Well to me, Evil Dead is at its best when it's funny and the same goes for Freddy and the Elm Street series. Now don't get me wrong, the original Elm Street is one of my favorite horror movies of all time and I am very much looking forward to seeing a darker vision of the dream demon in the remake, but nothing will ever top the wise cracking prankster Freddy for me. That version of Freddy is the only version of Freddy in my eyes.

Do you prefer funny or serious Freddy? Leave a comment and let me know!

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29 comments:

Stac said...

As far as I'm concerned I like Freddy either way. I was honestly so terrified of him (without ever seeing any of the movies) that it made no difference to me if he was serious or wise cracking. To me it was scary whatever he did.

Now I just like the character regardless. Just seems to give him more over all dimension for me.

Valorie said...

I have to say that though the first A Nightmare on Elm Street was great, I prefer the joke cracking Freddy of the later films. I mean, he had so much PERSONALITY. He wasn't some super serious villain, or some silent wood or house walker. Freddy would talk to you and taunt you and laugh at his own jokes. And while this might destroy the credibility of some horror villains, it only seemed to make Freddy that much more scary. And awesome.

Cory said...

Here's the thing: I like both. Now, I hate to straddle the fence so much, but really both versions of the character work for me and what I'm hoping for with the remake is a pefrect blend of the 2 leaning more towards dark. I thought Freddy was perfect in 2 and 3. After that it started to get worse but didn't have me cringing until Super Freddy and The Nintendo Powerglove scenes. As long as we can steer clear of that level of stupidity everything should be fine.

Bjornabo said...

I kind of disagree with you on this one Johnny. I must say I liked the more serious, and scary Freddy from the original.

The later movies felt more liks horror-comedies than horror movies, and Freddy became more a funn character.

But hey, that`s just me.

JeffScape said...

I'd have to say I prefer serious Freddy. I like my villains intense, and find that humor in horror takes me out of the movie. Give me James Cameron's school of filmmaking any day of the week: turn it on, pile it on, and don't let the audience breathe.

Pax Romano said...

I am a big fan of the original as well as Wes Craven's New Nightmare (which I think is a brilliant post modern take on the whole Elm Street mythos).

As for the joke spouting Freddy, sorry to say, he left me cold. Having a Henny Youngman-like boogie man just cheapened the whole thing for me. It was as if they were modeling Freddy Kruger after all of the wise cracking 80's action heroes (Arnie, Bruce Willis, etc...).

As for the new film, we'll see how good or bad it is, only time will tell.

Georgina said...

Serious Freddy anytime mate. As a kid, I loved the jokes, now they seem so lame to me. Sorry.

T.L Bugg said...

While I have a soft spot in my heart for the funny Freddy (I do so love 3 and 4), Nightmare 1 is my favorite of the series and I am very interested in the return of scary Freddy. The first film is quite the freaky affair, and he still had some one liners (although nothing along the lines of "Welcome to prime time, bitch!"). When I was younger, I surely liked the more slapstick Fred more, but now I want the dreamstalking boogyman that was Craven's original vision.

Jay Amabile said...

I was 5 when I saw the first Nightmare and it left a meteor like crater in my mind. I can appreciate the wise cracks, but let me speak for many Freddy fans out there and say that the general consensus is that the original series should've been a trilogy. Parts 1 - 3 were the best by far. I'll include Freddy's Dead for the 3-D novelty as well as its attempt at backstory and I'll also give ultimate props to the fine filmmaking in NEW NIGHTMARE - a very underrated installment. I don't think Freddy vs. Jason could have been any better than it was so I'll throw that in as well. Once Freddy starts the wisecracks it takes away from the films totally creepy atmosphere. Nightmare 1 is clearly a piece of art IMO. Even though 2 is cheesy and almost as homoerotic as Jeepers Creepers 2, it's still amazing and memorable in so many ways. Part 3 is actually the sequel to 1. My vote is for the more demonic "boogeyman" Freddy like we saw in the first few films. If I want jokes I'll go watch Superbad for the 44,000th time! Nice post, great blog!

Geof said...

The original NOES is an all-time favorite for me, but the jokester Freddy if the version I prefer. Like you said, that is what separated him from the rest if the pack because he was different and entertaining...while he killed off his prey.

Wings said...

Serious Freddy, without a doubt. An occasionally barb is okay, but the yukking jokester is just not something I care for. Too much "Chucky" and too little "Jason".

Mister Bones said...

For me, Dream Warriors was pretty much the perfect Freddy. There were one-liners (including the one he's most famous for, heh) but he was still scary. Guess 3 is really where the transition started to take place.

I don't mind the wisecracks all that much, especially in Dream Master and Dream Child, but Freddy's Dead seemed to take it just a bit too far in some scenes (I'm looking at you "winded after pushing bed of spikes under John").

To be honest though, I am looking forward to a return to dark and evil Freddy in the remake. The first Nightmare is still one of the scariest movies I can ever remember seeing, and I'm hoping this new one can recapture some of that magic for me. Been too long since I was genuinely creeped out by a movie.

Johnny said...

Seems the majority of you guys prefer the more serious Freddy. Very interesting. I always thought everyone loved the wise cracking Freddy! And ya, Mister Bones, 3 is really where the transition took place, which is probably one of the big reasons why that one has always been a favorite of mine.

Keep the comments coming, love hearing your opinions!

Fred [The Wolf] said...

I actually like the Freddy from DREAM WARRIORS and THE DREAM MASTER. He was still kind of scary at this point with a touch of humor mixed in. But THE DREAM CHILD and FREDDY'S DEAD was just too much. I'm one for personality but he just became a joke and a shell of what made him so great in my opinion. So I welcome the more serious Freddy from the first one. I don't mind if he cracks one-liners every once in a while. But he became more of a clown than a killer. Pennywise from IT was scarier than Freddy at that point.

kaiyn said...

It'll be nice to see a scary Freddy again, but I've always preferred the funny Freddy. I think it gave him more of a personality.

Johnny said...

Fred - There are many who think Pennywise is the scariest horror villain of all time!

Cins said...

I actually like the Funny Freddy. I find the fact that he got such a kick out of killing people more scary than if he was serious and dark. I do like serious Freddy but being funny is what set him a part from the pack.

Nik Holmes said...

Well as far as Freddy goes, i like him funny but as far as Elm Street goes it's parts 1 and 3 which are my faves. They're the better made horror flicks in my opinion, but Freddy as a phenomenon rocks when he's cracking wise and is what makes all the movies so watchable. Let's face it, when he's turning characters into motorbikes and cockroaches, why does he even need to be there?
Can't believe theres no Freddy Vs Jason love going on though! That movie really showed the darker, child murdering perv that Freddy is AND had the humour of the later movies. In fact I'd have to say FvJ Krueger is my favourite outing of all the movies, so there!

Kudos also to Englund for such a fine performance throughout. Without him the character would no doubt had fallen flat a long time ago. There was some concern over who else could even play Krueger in the remake, and I think it says alot when people are concerned over the acting chops involved in playing a horror movie character buried under a pile of makeup.

Johnny said...

Amen on the Freddy vs Jason comments, Nik. I love that movie and so few people seem to realize how great and thoroughly entertaining it is. I can't for the life of me see why anyone wouldn't dig it, especially fans of Freddy and/or Jason.

Cory said...

Johnny, count me in as another HUGE fan of Freddy Vs. Jason, that was the most fun I had ever had in a theater seeing a horror movie, and it also sickens me how many people were dissapointed in it. What the hell do they want? It's all there.
And now that I think of it, that movie I thought was a perfect balance of evil and jokester Freddy. And Nik nailed it when he mentions the nods to his being a CHILD murderer. That definitely helps make the character a little more serious. Too often we forget that it's not just almost adult teenagers that he had a penchant for killing. My fave example of that in FvsJ was licking the back of the little girls photo to put it in his scrapbook. Disgusting and evil!!!

Nik Holmes said...

Ha! Yeah man, that licky licky photo collection was just plain creepy. Reminded me of Phillip Seymour Hoffmans own method of picture adhesive in 'Happiness'.

wiec? said...

nothing like getting hacked to death by a guy who's laughing his ass off and making jokes about the whole thing as he's doing it. i say funny Freddy rules!

he should be funny and menacing. why not both? my favorite thing about Freddy was his personality. Jason Michael Meyers and Leatherface had the menace but were seriously lacking in the personality dept. we have enough silent killing machine remakes i say keep Freddy fun.

Tlieso said...

I like the sarcastic Freddy, nothing wrong with a little darkness but the one liners is what made him stand out to me.

Carl (ILHM) said...

Another great topic Johnny! And a very tough call. Of the various incarnations, the Freddy from 1 and 3 were easily my favorites. Though he is cracking wise in Dream Warriors, it hasnt turned into the awful self-parody that it spiraled into by 4 and 5. Englund also feels like he has grown into the role and knows exactly how he wants to play it by 3, so I would have to go with Dream Warriors Freddy, which I guess falls into the wise cracking Freddy, but with class ;)

the jaded viewer said...

I gotta go with the serious Freddy. Power Glove Freddy was plain ridiculous. If we get a blend of Freddy 1-3 and New Nightmare Freddy, I'll be a happy Elm Streeter.

OMGSeriously said...

If I had to pick.... then well a more serious one but only slightly so.

Anonymous said...

I love the one liner freddy......thats what made freddy freddy, he was the only real major killer that was able to talk and they made him bad ass....so idk how i will like the more Bad ass freddy

Raine.Otaku said...

Would have to go with the joke cracking Freddy of the later films. I mean, he had so much MORE to him. He wasn't some super villain, or some stalker that would "silently" kill you. Freddy would talk and taunt you and laugh at his own jokes. And while this might destroy some of some horror villains, It seemed to make Freddy just that much Scarier...which was enjoyable =D <3

Guess said...

I'd say I love all the freddys equally except the remake freddy who look like an alien. I love the joke cracking freddy because that's what makes him iconic, I also love the freddy who's just a inventive killer, and I love the new nightmare freddy who cold blooded,silentish and just cool looking.